Protect the Wildlife, but Not Your Baby?

Isn’t it funny how many people will go out of their way to protect an animal, and in the same breath support abortion? Have you ever known someone that reports animal abuse, yet will champion “a woman’s right to choose”?

If a dinosaur bone or ancient artifacts are discovered on your property, immediately the government steps in to protect and study the findings…yet, where are the same protections for an unborn child?

If a Bald Eagle nests on your property, you could be fined or even imprisoned if it is discovered that you disrupted it. Why don’t the same laws exist for babies in utero?

A woman’s right to choose, but not the same individual rights when it comes to private property?

You see, that is how I know that abortion rights are more about convenience and not about protection.

I’m not saying that we should not be good stewards of our environment.

I am asking, is a Bald Eagle is more valuable than a baby?

Are dinosaurs bones more valuable than a baby?

How can a person be appalled and disgusted with animal abuse, yet look the other way when a woman kills her unborn?

How can I support the 2A, yet view abortion as murder. Well, the minute I discharge my firearm in self defense, my gun will be confiscated and I will be placed under investigation as to why I felt the need to fire.

How can I be in support of the death penalty, and not be in favor of abortion? To be honest, I don’t know if I am in favor of the death penalty, but I will tell you this, a person awaiting the death penalty, goes under more adjudication (years of appeals) than a woman who gets an abortion.

If you’re old enough to have sex, then your old enough to birth a baby and raise a kid.

If you care about science, then you should respect the process of life, regardless of the stage.

If you define an unborn baby as a fetus, a zygote or simply a cluster of cells, then why would anyone mourn a miscarriage?

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72 thoughts on “Protect the Wildlife, but Not Your Baby?

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          I find it humorous that people who claim to not believe in God, refuse to acknowledge their beliefs as religion.

              1. Yep. They’ll also tell you that there’s no such thing as “evolutionists” (I think they want us to just use the word “science believers”), and that anyone using the term has excluded themselves from being taken seriously.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Goldie,

      Interesting response. I wonder if it is just another example of affluence and opulence. Whenever a society ascends to a point of perpetual peace and a constant state of self induced sedation, that they would rather remain sedated, since life requires constant work.

      Like, attempting to extend adolescence, for fear of growing up. Peter Pan and the lost boys for instance.

          1. bottomlesscoffee007

            Sure, I’ll agree with that.

            Have you ever heard of Theranos or Elizabeth Holmes?

            Have you ever heard of Samuel Morton?

            What about Wernher von Braun?

            I agree that science should be practiced as an observer. But much like religion, science has also been perversed, depending on the era and the culture.

            So, do you believe in any of the science you have not studied?

              1. bottomlesscoffee007

                I’m interested in your thoughts on them.

                What do you think of Von Braun or other Scientists from Germany, during WWII.

                    1. Sure, in general I think people can change.

                      In Von Braun’s case one has to do the research and decide what they believe from historical accounts.

                      It would have been in the U.S.’s interest to downplay anything brutal he might have done since he basically gave NASA the rocket they needed to get to the moon.

                      I’m not a Von Braun expert so I imagine the real experts who know the truth will jump all over this comment and tell us what really happened.

                    2. bottomlesscoffee007

                      I understand that. But, do the ends justify the means? Should, I as a Christian look the other way, when another Christian does something wrong or should I call them out, or, should I assess whether or not I am directly impacted by the actions of another?

                      If religion is to be judged by those who used it as an excuse to punish others. Then science should be judged for the scientists who punished others under the guise of research.

                    3. Is that how religion should be judged? By those who used it as an excuse to punish others?

                      In the case of the Nazis, it was immoral ideals used to punish others, not the science itself.

                    4. Science is just a methodology for conducting experiments and concluding what the results mean.

                      As a tool, it cannot be blamed.

                      A book cannot be blamed either. But I can say the ideas contained within might cause trouble.

                    5. bottomlesscoffee007

                      That seems very convenient BSheep. You’re willing to blame the people that used a religious book as an excuse.

                      Yet, you’re not willing to blame the scientific method for the actions of those who used it as an excuse to commit atrocities?

                    6. I can read the words in the Bible and make my determination. I can speak about it and maybe get someone’s attention. That’s good enough for me.

                      Everyone has bias.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Who is being protected in that scenario Scherezade?

      Why am I regulated by the government if a Bald Eagle nests on my property? Who in that scenario is being protected from whom?

      Are eagles more valuable than human babies?

      1. You cant compare an endangered animal to a choice a woman had to make. She needed to make that choice, and it was one she had to have put alot of thought to.

        If she were raped and impregnated(by stranger, acquaintance, or family member) or if it was for medical reasons (the fetus was too unviable for life outside the womb), then it’s her business.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          What is the percentage of women who get abortions due to a rape or incest compared to the percentage of women who get abortions because they claim a baby will inconvenience them?

          Where is the man and his choice in this matter? With that being said, I wholeheartedly believe that if there were more men out there instead of childish men, more women would give birth rather than choose an abortion.

          Abortion, is not just about women.

          1. So once again, you’re minding a woman’s business (and in some cases a couple’s choice) to do what they feel they had to?

            I’m not against abortion if it was done for a good reason (the reasons I mentioned prior). But if a woman is promiscuous (her choice to have many Male partners) to a fault of not using or requesting the use of birth control, then it’s still her business. I dont agree with constantly putting her body through the process, but it’s her choice as a single woman.
            If she were in a relationship with a man (dating or married), and the man doesnt protest the actions but allows it, then that’s his business.

            It’s easy to point fingers and judge people’s thought processes when one is not empathetic to understanding why one must make such a hard choice.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              Empathetic? Hard choice? What empathy do I lack in your opinion Scherezade? Why can I not question a person’s motives for doing something?

              What is a “good reason” in your opinion?

              How many abortions is too many, Scherezade?

              I like the way, you refer to abortion as “a woman’s choice”. Who pays for abortions in America and in Mexico and certain African countries? As long as I am taxed, I have a say and plenty of questions. Are you suggesting that regardless of the taxes I pay, I should mind my own business?

              Scherezade, I can’t help but assume that in your opinion, I mustn’t question abortions or the women who get them.

              Scherezade, what defines a baby and what defines a fetus?

              Why do you feel as if animals require more rights than babies?

              1. Never said animals have more rights than babies. I only focused on your argument on abortion and how your judging a woman because you think you have a right to question what she does with her body. That’s all.

                Like you said to me more than a couple of times, why do you think your opinion matters?

                And yes, I’m passionate about this. Because there are too many men who think as you, who feel they have a right to question anything when their pockets are involved. Sorry not sorry

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  Do you disagree that animals have more rights than babies?

                  How am I judging a woman, or a girl, more specifically a female?

                  I have a say, as long as I pay my taxes and my tax money is used to fund abortions and abortion clinics.

                  My opinion matters to me, but more importantly, my money ensures my seat at the table and my right to voice my opposition to such acts as abortion.

                  “Too many men who think as you, who feel they have a right to question anything when their pockets are involved”. By that I assume you mean I should pay and ask no questions or offer any criticism?

                  I will say Scherezade, I do find it laughable that you seem so triggered by simple questions.

            2. bottomlesscoffee007

              How many guns should a person be allowed to own?

              How much money should a person be allowed to have?

              How much money should women earn on their own?

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  Scherezade, why can’t females pay for their own abortions?

                  Why should I pay for a person I do not know and will probably never meet?

                  What money of yours, are you willing to give me, no questions asked?

                    1. Marleen

                      There is a law that prohibits taxpayer money from paying for any abortion (except in the life of the mother consideration). It’s the Hyde Amendment. Now, of course, there are people who think contraception is like abortion. If we have to go THAT far, well, that’s pretty much insurmountable.

                    2. bottomlesscoffee007

                      Yuuuuuup, it is.

                      Q. Where does the government get the funds for planned parenthood?

                      A. Taxes.

                      Q. Who pays taxes?

                      A. I do.

                      Thereby, I am forced to pay taxes to support an organization and and act that I do not support, due to the threat of imprisonment, that is enforced by men with guns.

                      So yes Scherezade, I do pay for abortions, whether I like it or not.

                    3. Marleen

                      The people who make the decisions are doctors and the women. Right; you’re not inspecting every woman’s uterus, blood pressure, etcetera. This is a control-freak issue. Nevertheless, I’m not happy about Planned Parenthood (while it’s not the only place abortions happen) additionally performing* other abortions. So I don’t add donation money from me. Still, this is the only affordable place (or even the only place at all) for many women (men too) to get the healthcare they need. Until our country gives a crap about healthcare for people in general (and including for women) I don’t wish them out of existence. This is a face reality issue.

                      * I always have to add that there are choices some people call abortion that I do not call abortion. (And a significant portion of the coalition to restrict options is ruthlessly aiming that there be no sex for fun even in marriage.)

          2. You and I absolutely disagree on this issue. I am not interested in jumping back into it, but did want to point out that you’re asking for stats…which you also claim not to believe in. Do the stats ultimately matter? You’ve already decided that abortion is an evil that should never occur under any circumstance—would having any stats at your fingertips change that view? Or are you just looking for stats to further justify your argument that women who choose abortion are uncaring/nonbelievers/whatever and should not be allowed to obtain an abortion for any reason because once she becomes pregnant, her body is no longer hers to make decisions for?

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              People say that abortion is necessary. If so, then it would seem to me that women and girls are getting pregnant from rape and incest at incredibly high rates, since that is what people want to highlight whenever abortions are discussed.

              But I have a feeling that is not the case, that more abortions take place out of convenience rather than out of rape or incest.

              1. I don’t disagree that some women use it as a form of birth control, but I still don’t think the option should be taken from them—it’s their body, so they should have the right to choose what happens with, or to, it. I would agree with you, in some cases, that I think it’s detestable that a woman chooses abortion—I certainly judge reasons as being sufficient or not, but I would never be interested in legislating what ought to happen to another person’s body without their permission.

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  Sure, I can understand that aspect. Then again, taxes make us all equal, regardless of support or lack thereof.

                  If my tax dollars weren’t used to fund abortions, abortion clinics or abortion providers, then I wouldn’t have any skin in the game. Therefore, my opinion would be illegitimate.

                  Remove the government funding and suddenly, abortion becomes a private matter.

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