Can You Point Out Who Will Make it to Heaven and Who will be Sent to Hell?

If you cannot, then why do you care so much about others and what they do? How much Christian is enough?

If you believe in God, why would you need the support of others to maintain your faith?

Does this only apply to Christians?

If all you ever do is surround yourself with like minded people, how will you ever grow or become stronger?


71 thoughts on “Can You Point Out Who Will Make it to Heaven and Who will be Sent to Hell?

  1. I’m not sure what you are asking. Most Christians I know believe that the Bible teaches that we are to share the Gospel so they do that in obedience, not for approval or to maintain their own faith. It would be much easier to just be glad I am saved and not care about others, but that is not showing God’s love to others. The Bible teaches the greatest commandments are to love God and love others. 🙂

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      I was more or less talking about the Christians that seem to be in competition with who can be more Christian or for telling others that they are not Christian enough.

      1. I don’t know any like that. Probably haters or fake Christians. It’s not a competition. But the Bible does teach that fellow Christians should help each other. Not necessarily shame them in a public forum, but it can come to church discipline if they are unrepentant.

          1. It’s a biblical concept that many people find outdated, but it means that the person who is living in sin, after being talked to privately, but still continuing the sin, is basically given a public choice to stop or leave the church. I’ve never seen it myself, but I have heard of it being done. I believe it is used for big sins like adultery or apostasy. I’m just going off the top of my head. I need to research it more when I have time.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              I’ve heard about stuff like that before. That is one of the main reasons why I stay out of church. I cannot understand the concept of answering to a church and to God, for me, it’s one or the other.

              From what I understand sin is sin and the weight of sin is equal, so no sin outweighs another sin.

              1. It’s really no different than answering to superiors at your job. People with more experience and education can help us along in our walk of faith. I’m a lot like you, in that I don’t like people telling me what to do, but there are some very loving, godly servants of Jesus who are NOT on power trips. To answer your question about allegiance, the allegiance belongs to God. You would not follow any teachings or instructions that go against the Bible. This is why I read the Bible. So I know the truth from God, not man.

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  Too bad we don’t live closer, I would really appreciate sitting in on some of your bible studies.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              And does that only apply to sin that you are caught doing or that you have admitted to? What about the sin that is never discovered?

              1. Don’t worry, most churches today won’t even teach on sin. But it would apply to obvious sin that could impact the other church members if left ignored. Such as a leader in the church cheating on his wife.

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  I gotta be honest PK, I can’t really get behind something like that. It seems that model would incline folks to appeal to the church and its members rather than truly seek a relationship with God. I’m messed up dude, at the same time, I don’t need someone else trying to string me along to have a place to hang out.

                  If there is a disagreement between my house and the church, I would choose my house every time.

                  I realize there are folks out there that are marvelous at council, but to be judged by people like myself, leave that to the law and to God.

                  Just my stance though.

                  1. I understand that and I am wary myself. I’ve seen ‘churches’ destroy people’s lives. But I don’t think you would be susceptible to those kind of leaders. The homeschooling world has had some very charismatic men that really were wolves in sheeps clothing. And there are many false churches that are just in it for the money. I attend a small Methodist church right now that is very non-threatening. I think the majority of popular mega-churches are basically clubs for people who like inspirational speeches, but to each their own. So what exactly prompted your original question about pointing out who will make it to Heaven?

                    1. bottomlesscoffee007

                      I guess what prompted me was the thought that you have to make your own choices. You have to find out for yourself, you cannot divide your soul. No one is better than the other. If Jesus loved all, why cant we?

                    2. You alone will answer to God when you meet him. But I think God meant for humans to interact and communicate in order to help each other. But faith can’t and should not be forced on anyone. And we are not called or even allowed to judge someone’s faith except that the Bible does teach that you will know someone by their fruit. So it’s pretty safe to say that a person living an outright evil life is probably not saved. But it’s not so easy to tell if a person with ‘minor’ sins is saved or not. We can’t see their heart to know if they have been born again.

                    3. bottomlesscoffee007

                      I agree PK. The promising part, for me, is realizing that even the most evil among us, still has the same chance as we all do. At least that is what I believe.

                      I believe there will be plenty of thieves, murderers, rapists and child molesters in heaven along with the aborted babies and the most meek among us. This is what opens my eyes and my heart to realizing God’s love. A true love.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          I don’t know man, PK asked me if I was going to write something and I felt like maybe I should try

  2. I believe that to have a true relationship with the Lord, you have to be spiritual. There is a difference between religion and spirituality. Religion is flawed, because man is flawed, spirituality on the other hand is God and you, one on one.

      1. Yes, I believe so but that’s purely my opinion. I’ve had very heated philosophical discussions regarding this very question. And the way I see it, coming from a former Catholic is we learn spirituality/faith from a one on one relationship with God. We don’t learn it from man, a priest, religious zelaouts who want us to see what THEY want us to see/believe/hear.

  3. Excellent! My feelings exactly. It even applies to our national political divide (which has also overflowed into Christian diversity and intolerance)..

    “If all you ever do is surround yourself with like minded people, how will you ever grow or become stronger?”

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          Not in a negative way. More or less, the same reason why I stopped blogging. It felt as if I was casting disparaging remarks or that I was talking down fro a tower. I don’t like authority, and I feel weird when I think I am coming across as an authority.

  4. No one will make it to heaven or to hell because neither is real. Both heaven and hell are human constructs (myths) and when people die, they are dead and cease to exist. Period.

      1. Right. And there are plenty who say that the Earth is 6,000 years old or is flat or that the moon landing took place on a Hollywood sound stage. What’s your point?

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      That is a good point Goldie. Sorry it took so long for me to reply. We all need to be replenished from time to time, or else we run the risk of the well running dry.

  5. I think Matthew chapter 7 verses 1-5 said it best: “Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged. And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.”

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