Equality Will Never Happen, Since Equality Was Never the Goal

Who really wants equality? In America, what and who is not considered equal under the law? I know, I know, time will tell if Jussie Smollett will be treated as an equal, but seriously. Do people want equality or do they truly desire domination?

– What specific rights do women not have?

– What specific rights do “minorities” not have?

– What specific rights do gays not have?

You see, that’s the trick. Convince everyone that somehow you do not have the same exact rights as someone else. When asked for specific proof, provide none, simply talk about how people are mean.

When it comes to humans, humans in society in particular, it’s always the goal of the narcissist to “change” how people think. Control the mind, control the person. So, shame comes into play, “you can’t say that”, “that’s not very inclusive or progressive of you”, etc.

People tend to talk outta both sides of their mouths, yet no one calls them out on it. Right now, in America, we have peaked and there is but one direction to go, and that is down.

That is why we tear each other apart over thoughts, not actions, but words, phrases, isms, ics and ists. That’s all it takes anymore, and that is how you know equality is not and has never the goal.

A key identifier, is how they always expect others to be quite or step aside. A person who wants equality, would go after it themselves. A person who wants to dominate, will either ask or demand that others cater specifically to them. Thereby, they do not go after it themselves, they expect everyone else to carry them there and then they claim the prize for themselves and themselves alone.

If someone lacks the drive or endurance to get something themselves, then perhaps they should try harder.

When they say equality, ask for specifics.

When it comes to eggs, if the baby animal cannot hatch itself, it dies. The egg is always the first obstacle to overcome and the first measure. Fail the first chance, the second opportunity will never happen.

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71 thoughts on “Equality Will Never Happen, Since Equality Was Never the Goal

  1. Yep, exactly, as I’ve thought for some time. We ALREADY have full equality. There’s no mainstream discrimination. Those carrying on about discrimination and pushing for “equality” are simply con artists.

  2. – What specific rights do women not have? In many states, the right to manage their own reproductive health care. The right to equal pay for equal work.

    – What specific rights do “minorities” not have? In many states, equal access to vote, or challenges that make it burdensome for them to vote.

    – What specific rights do gays not have? Only recently have gays gotten the right to marry and to have all the rights and privileges, including tax treatment, of married heterosexual couples. And under Trump, the opportunity to serve in the military.

    It’s naive to believe that every American, regardless of gender, race, religion, national origin, or sexual orientation, are treated equally in our society or under the law. And if you’re a white, Christian male and you believe that to be the case, you’re not naive, you’re blind. Because all people in our country do not have the exact same rights as everyone else.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      What specific rights do you speak of Fandango?

      Is there a specific law that states women will not be paid commensurate with their work?
      What reproductive rights are they barred from? Is there a law stating that they must have sex?

      What specific laws Fandango, that prohibit minorities from voting?

      Gays have always served in the military. Sure, only recently (I believe around 2009, so approximately 9 years now) was gay marriage condoned under the law.

      Could you please cite which us code or laws that prevent these different things that you suggest, otherwise, it’s just hyperbole.

      1. Seriously, Coffee? As I said in my comment, I was talking about equal treatment “in our society or under the law.” If you truly believe that, in our society, women, minorities, and gays are treated equally, then there is no point in my saying anything further.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          I think your last statement pretty much summarized your intent. That white males are the problem?

          If you cannot cite anything Fandango, then how can you prove it?

      2. I never said white males are the problem. I am a white male. But I’m not blind. States are passing laws and creating rules that are making it difficult, if not impossible, for women to get abortions, and it is particularly harmful to poor women and minority women. But do you ever see laws restricting male access to vasectomies or imposing impossible rules on doctors or clinics who perform vasectomies? It is perfectly legal in most states for employers to pay women less for doing the exact same work as men.

        So what do you think my intent is, Coffee? My intent was only to comment on your post, where you stated that there is equality in America and we are all equal. If you are so close-minded as to only want people to comment on your posts who agree with you, let me know and I’ll stop following your blog. After all, no one with your believes is really interested in hearing from a hyperbolic lefty like me, anyway.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          Quite the contrary Fandango. I was looking for specific circumstances, laws, regulations, policies etc.

          Are there any laws that keep women from getting their tubes tied or hysterectomies?

          Is weed still outlawed in some states? Does that stop people from ingesting marijuana?

          Stop following if you want Fandango, but that is the purpose of this blog, to understand exactly what is happening. Not just easily toss out accusations without some kind of a specific example.

          You see, that’s the thing. Baseless accusations are just spewed without any real proof, except that people repeat what they heard, so, people tend to believe what they hear, since there is no owness on actually citing anything.

  3. “the purpose of this blog, to understand exactly what is happening.” If that’s your purpose, you have failed. Especially if you claim that any expression of opinions other than your own are nothing more than “baseless accusations.”

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Can you provide specific examples of these atrocities, or am I to take you at your word? I do not state that opinions are right or wrong. So, are these your opinions, or can you provide specific examples?

      I never claimed to be good or bad at what I do, but it is important that we talk this stuff out, if we are to really understand what is happening and accusations without specific examples or instances, merely perpetuate this type of group think.

      1. Atrocities? What is happening at our southern border to families is an atrocity. The rollback of regulations that prevent toxic chemicals from being drained into rivers and streams and into the air we breath is an atrocity. Kowtowing to our enemy and believing Putin over his own intelligence experts is an atrocity. Being a traitor to our country and our allies is an atrocity. The examples I gave are not atrocities, just examples of inequities in our society.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          So, when has government actually served the people and not their own interests? This is nothing new, this is how it has always been. Even before trump, fines were levied on the rich, whereas the poor and middle class were always locked up.

          Who benefits from migrants? I do not, what is the reason behind wanting them to come in? Cheap labor, free votes, yes in my mind. Why do you want these people to be granted entry?

          Families are always split up by law enforcement, why should these people be treated better than U.S. citizens in that regard?

          1. “Who benefits from migrants? I do not, what is the reason behind wanting them to come in?” Yes, I see. Make America great again by keeping it white and male dominated. Sorry pal, but in another couple of decades, white males will be a minority in America. So get over it. And if you can’t see the benefits of immigration, I feel sorry for you. I’m a first generation American, and I see the benefit of immigration first hand.

            Over and out.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              So, what’s the difference then I proclaiming the decline in the white race, as if white is really that ambiguous. How is white any different from any other color?

              From what I understand about race is there are only 3 races. Negroid, Caucasian and, I cannot remember the term, but it is basically Asian, due to the Eyes.

              Outside of those 3 races, everything else is a mix or combination of those 3 races.

              Why will white males be the minority and not white everyone? Do you stereotype all white males the same? It comes across as you just might. How is that different from any other discrimination?

              As far as the future is concerned and what will take place, you have the tendency to continue across as a religious zealot. Whether it’s climate change, a sweeping change in races or if it will yield the second coming.

              You don’t have to feel sorry for me Fandango, I’ll be alright, just as I always have been.

              I can understand how you may take this personally, but it is quite the contrary. If we are to understand, then questions must be asked and censoring of those questions will keep us in the quagmire that has existed ever since Adam and Eve or humans in general. You see, we are our own worst enemy.

              We claim to care, we claim to love, but really, we all are just looking to get over and get ahead, at any cost. Maybe not all of us, but the vast majority, yes.

              1. “Why will white males be the minority and not white everyone? Do you stereotype all white males the same?” To answer your first questions, males are already a minority in America, comprising only 48.9% of the population. So clearly, once caucasians become a minority in America, white males will be a minority as well. That’s how math works. As to your second question, I don’t stereotype anyone, regardless of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. My perspectives are individually based upon what people say and how they act.

                  1. “Hispanic or Latino” is ethnicity as opposed to race. They are defined as “a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race.” In the United States, a White Hispanic is an American citizen or resident who is racially white and of Hispanic descent. The term white, itself an official U.S. racial category, refers to people “having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe.” From the perspective of the Census Bureau, which projects that by 2045, whites will be 49.7% of the population. That 49.7% includes non-Hispanic members of the white race. Does this help?

                    1. bottomlesscoffee007

                      So, then whites really aren’t going anywhere? Since practically all Hispanics and Latinos are of European and Indian descent. Plus, they all speak the Queen’s language, the Queen of Spain that is.

      2. in Oklahoma: Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt; abortion clinics must provide the same capability for health care as hospitals, including having on staff surgeons, RNs, Physicians of ALL specialties. It is absurd. It also requires doctors to gain express permission in writing from both parents of a “minor’ child seeking abortion or other clinic services…and they define a “minor for the purposes of this statute as being a person under the age of 21”, even though a minor nationwide is a kid under 18. This law also states that abortions can only be done during the first 20 weeks, and states the type of surgeries that are appropriate..thus they are in effect practicing medicine without a license. it is only one of several laws having been passed in the last three years. There are zero restrictions on male surgeries such as vasectomies, penile implants, etc. Women are NOT equal in the US. Oklahoma is NOT the only state that has passed female restrictive laws.
        Just look at the state of North Carolina if you think that people of colour are equal there when it comes to voting. The state Attorney general is filing suit against several counties for vast voter restrictions that make it almost impossible for people of colour to vote. Read the federal and State Registers for the laws that restrict access to specific things such as voting rights, marital rights, and medical access. There are hundreds of restrictive laws.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          Parents need to consent to piercings and tattoos as well, plus military service is the person is under age 18, that goes for men and women.

          The “restrictions” on abortion, sound like life saving measures. If these procedures are as dangerous as they say they are, then the facilities providing them, should be fully staffed. Otherwise, they are risking more than just the babies life, but that of the mother as well.

          So, they are cracking down on voter fraud? What’s the issue with voter ID? They have it in my state. You need an ID for everything else, why not voting?

          These arguments are incredibly unscrupulous, since the actual measures behind them are meant to promote transparency and health.

          Would you want abortion clinics to not provide life saving abilities? When is a child allowed to sign any contract without their parents express consent.

          Why wouldn’t the father need to be present to consent to an abortion?

          How come it’s always people of color that are highlighted as not being able to get the same credentials to vote as the rest of us, that alone seems quite racist, to assume that people of color cannot figure out the same things we do.

          So, why do the people in NC allow this atrocious use of the law?

          Why do the people of OK allow these types of laws to be on the books? If these are the actual cases.

          1. why do the people of OK allow the laws? possibly because statistically, OK has 78% registered republicans?? That could be an issue. Rep tend to vote for far more restrictive laws than dems or independents do. NC is a strongly republican state, so could be the same reason there. why people of colour? why not? laws are made by the vast majority white males..why wouldn’t they be against women and people of colour? historically in the south it is always keep the minorities in their place…and that means lack of education, opportunities and making it difficult to vote. I do know that it was beyond the ability of the native american population in a specific county in Kansas to get to vote as the voting place was arbitrarily changed to a building far outside the town in which they lived, and the majority did not have transportation to the venue. I know because I drove up from Oklahoma to get people in that town to their voting venue…and spent eight solid hours transporting people back and forth. it was quite obvious that the republican minority wanted the democratic majority natives to be unable to cast their ballots. And id is not the problem here in Indian country…most reservations do not have named streets. And most do not have numbered homes. The regulations in both Oklahoma and Kansas state an “address” is a street name and numbered home. The native population have native reservation issued ids…none of them have an “address”. They can figure out the same things “we do”…the laws are biased against them and they have to figure out MORE than “we do”. That is patently unfair.
            and so far as the abortion rights and women getting the father’s approval..what about rape or incest, both of which are the “reason” for the majority of abortions according to the US Dept of health. Get a rapists permission to abort? I don’t think so.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              I’m sure in the case of rape or incest, consent is not required, that is as long as it is deemed rape or incest.

              So, transportation is an issue when it comes to voting? I would argue that NC is not a republican state.

              So, it’s white male republicans that have caused this? How is that possible 8 years after Obama?

              1. could it be because the protections put into place during obama’s years (and Bushes 1 and 2 ) have been systematically destroyed during the present occupant’s reign? I don’t know NC anymore, as I left there back a bazillion years ago…but my relatives there are all rabidly republican and pro-white anything. Consent IS required in every case in Oklahoma…that is why there are multiple lawsuits now trying to keep the law from going forward.

  4. “the purpose of this blog, to understand exactly what is happening.” If that’s the purpose of your blog, you are failing. You’re not expressing “exactly” what is happening. You’re expressing your opinions about what is happening, which you have every right to do on your blog. I certainly do that on my blog. But unlike you, I recognize and understand that I’m expressing my opinions, and not “exactly what is happening.” Just as I am in my comments in your post. I’m sorry if you perceive my comments to be “baseless accusations,” but as I’ve said, I’ve expressed MY opinions about what is happening.

    By the way, this is the second time I’ve posted this comment. My first one disappeared. I don’t know if that’s because you blocked me or deleted my first comment. But, either way, it’s your blog and it is your choice to ignore my comments, just as it’s your choice to ignore what is really happening in our society.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      LOL Fandango. I did not block you or delete you.

      So, you disagree with me and I disagree with you. What is the problem with that? Do we all need to acknowledge the same thing or are we to simply talk about what we see and experience? If we cannot have a dialogue of back and forth, what’s the point then, but to retreat back to our echo chambers? That hasn’t gotten all of us anywhere but at each others throats.

      1. No, we don’t need to agree or acknowledge the same thing, but we do need to at least listen to what others have to say without declaring them to be “baseless accusations.” You asked three questions at the beginning of your post and I expressed my opinions about each one. But you have essentially dismissed my opinions as “baseless.” That’s no way to have a dialogue.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          Exactly Fandango, what is your proof of your statements? You presented them as non negotiable, not as your opinions. If they are your opinions, what made you come to those opinions?

          1. No, I didn’t present them as “non-negotiable.” You asked for specific examples to illustrate inequalities and that’s what I responded to. No “negotiations” involved. Just illustrations.

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  In my heart. My belief in God is personal, and it will only suffice me.

                  I do not need to prove God’s existence to you or anyone for that matter.

                  I can talk with you or anyone about it though. How God has protected me and blessed me. It’s on each individual to chose God, themselves.

                    1. bottomlesscoffee007

                      I don’t ascribe to the notion of evolution or how earth came to be. It all seems too convenient to be honest.

                      There is no and has never been any actual proof of evolution. Everything about how we came to be is theory.

                      When it comes to God, after a few years overseas, came back with all my parts. Been in a few rough fire fights, nary a scratch, a bunch of explosions and I’m still here.

                      What else would you like to hear?

                      These are my experiences, that is why they will not suffice for you or anyone for that matter. A relationship with Christ, is a personal relationship.

                    2. bottomlesscoffee007

                      Only if it ruffles your feathers Fandango. Honestly, not really, never really thought about it. If the world is flat, it’s not like my life will suddenly change. It’s a waste of time in my opinion.

    2. bottomlesscoffee007

      Do you think that everyone has achieved equality, but upon receiving it, it’s not what they thought it was all along. And now they are determined to simply take the equality of others away? You see, because it seems that for a generation, white, straight and especially christian males have been under assault. Look no further than the Jussie Smollett case and how everyone was ready to torch some white males wearing MAGA hats. Or, in your mind, do white, straight males deserve this backlash?

      1. “Do you think that everyone has achieved equality, but upon receiving it, it’s not what they thought it was all along. And now they are determined to simply take the equality of others away?” Not even close. Social equality is not a zero sum game, my friend.

        I really feel for white, male, Christian Americans. They really have been persecuted for years. Sheesh. And as to Jussie Smollett, this is just one example of misguided behavior. Yet you’re using this one incident to create a whole case. Do you really want to use this one example when there are so many more examples that demonstrate just the opposite?

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          Really? So when women tell men that they must shut up and listen, what is that? When everyone is assigning almost everything evil as white and male, where does that fit in? What about the “old white man” mantra? So, are we already equal then?

          Equality was never the goal, it was always domination. The more that say they want equality, the more it seems to me that all they desire is for everyone who is not their Ally to be destroyed.

          1. “Equality was never the goal, it was always domination.” Oh come on, Coffee, you can’t really believe that asking for equal pay, for removing blockades to voting, or to be viewed as an equal regardless of sexual orientation is seeking domination. Why does seeking equality threaten you so much? As I said, life ain’t a zero sum game.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              Who doesn’t get equal pay? Who decides what is and what is not equal?

              What blockades are there to voting?

              Who is not viewed as equal due to sexual orientation and what do you mean by viewed? Like the way people think or how the laws are enforced?

              Who wants equality and what is meant by equality?

        2. OK. How about the whipped up frenzy to have some teenage boys ‘doxxed’ and attacked because a NA activist came over to THEM to beat his drum in THEIR faces? They were standing in a group waiting for their bus when they were approached. They didn’t do the approaching. And, a sixteen year old boy was held up as “the face of smug whiteness”. A CHILD, now, was attacked because he wore the wrong hat and…OMG…had the audacity to SMILE when he didn’t understand WTH was going on. If it wasn’t for a complete video that showed what REALLY happened, the MSM would have gotten someone killed.

          There is a deliberate effort being undertaken to pit us against each other.

  5. Marleen

    Maybe I should have gone ahead and posted my first thoughts first before reading the comments. But now I will say I didn’t see any proofs in your opening post, 007. You can say whatever you want, obviously, on your blog. But I’m seeing a double-standard (not only on your blog). I was raised with the kind of politics you display, so I’m not ignorant about it (and I still hold many of the same actual values, but the right just gets more disappointing). Back then, they were saying what you’re saying now — that there is no inequality. You know it was a lie then, unless your head is fully in the sand; actually, there is evidence it is: you said equality was never the goal (you claim dominance is all that was going on for people who wanted rights).

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      What double standard Marleen?

      What is the proof of inequality? What other laws need to be created to enforce equality?

      If you are suggesting that people’s attitudes are the problem, then that will never change, regardless of laws.

          1. Marleen

            I take it you have comprehension issues. Either that or you intend not to engage in honest and mutually respectful conversation.

            1. He is honest and respectful. He may be a little rough around the edges but, he CERTAINLY doesn’t have problems with comprehension.

              You, on the other hand, are rude & obnoxious.

              1. Marleen

                Well, of course he gets a pass on ignoring and mischaracterizing what I said and going ahead and acting as if I said things I didn’t say. It’s his site, so he has to be right. Wait… maybe it’s not because it’s his site. Maybe he’s really a girl. He did say (in another thread) that girls always get passes.

  6. I have always wondered what rights women did not have that they were pushing for. Now they are allowed to vote, own their own businesses, etc. It never made sense the “equality” thing.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      I think people eventually found out that being equal to a man was actually worse than what they had before. When women were actually held in higher regard than men.

      So, they got equal and realized it sucked, so now they are trying to be held in higher esteem again. Without giving up any of their equity.

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