Does “Slut-Shaming” Run Counter to How American History is Spoken About?

From what I hear, slut shaming will no longer be tolerated. But, I don’t know when it was tolerated.

So, lemme get this straight. It’s a woman’s right to choose. If a woman wants multiple partners, then she is now celebrated?

America was founded on slavery, true or false? America has a racist past, true or false?

Is constantly discussing slavery or racism the same as slut shaming?

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51 thoughts on “Does “Slut-Shaming” Run Counter to How American History is Spoken About?

  1. Slut Shaming is disgusting towards women. We do not say Men are sluts ?? We do say they are pigs for sure. Women are not to be put down any longer in our world. I am proud to stand up for women in this issue. Lots of men should have their names spread across the world for the number of women they sleep with. Yet they are celebrated by their fellow men for this achievement. Men are the pigs in this situation. Women are used and abused by men who say these sick twisted words aloud. Lets get the truth out women are not sluts just the men who say they are are pigs plain and simple 007 !!

          1. I know back in school that lots of guys went after the same young girls or it seemed so. Most of the time one guy would tell some young girl about another being a slut. That was all it took to have the dirty mess spread across the school.

            men are the ones who make women sluts by their own deeds with them. Not the other way around 007

              1. Most women are innocent in this game of life. Guys are the ones who seem to attack women’s credibility. I know from what I have seen and heard in my life time 007. It is unfortunate this takes place. I stand with women to protect them against such unscrupulous behavior by some men in this world I grew up in.

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  That’s the thing though James. If these men do not have identities or names, then all of us are expected to be punished for the actions of a few?

                  That just seems rather tyrannical.

                  1. I do not think all men will be punished by the actions of some. It is time that women became equal under the law as it states in most countries. Those men have no right any longer to destroy women at their will.

                    1. bottomlesscoffee007

                      How are women not equal James? You are stating “men” are the offenders. That to me sounds as if all men are culpable in your mind.

                      Are you also culpable James? You are a man.

                    2. Women are not equal in the work place where even as CEO’s make one third less than men are paid. There are other examples where women are given the worst jobs because some bosses are tyrants.

                      I did say ” All Men ” 007

                      I said some men are offenders as it shows each day just read and or listen to the news. Home violence against women is on the rise in 2019. Rapes are still taking place even though we live in the #MeToo age !!

                      I am not culpable 007. I am one of those men who have fought guys who thought they could hit and abuse women because they were going out them or married to them.

                    3. bottomlesscoffee007

                      Could you provide specific and thorough examples of these women or men who are oppressed or are the oppressors?

                    4. I am sorry but no. I would not with out permission us names on here 007. Studies have shown the facts that men are paid higher wages than women. Check the big 5 car manufactorer’s for salary caparison.

                    5. bottomlesscoffee007

                      With no names or dates or positions, the data is just numbers with no context behind them James.

                      I’m not saying you’re right or wrong. I just don’t believe the narrative until I can thoroughly understand how they arrived at their conclusions.

                    6. bottomlesscoffee007

                      That’s just it though James. If you think it is accurate and right, please then, make me understand from your point of view.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      It just seems rather contrarian. Do we believe in second chances, what is allowed to be spoken about and what is not.

      Why is history so selective?

  2. hawk2017

    Never heard that word. But interesting. People who do not know our God are capable of the worst horrors and will do so. If a woman wants more partners will do so, we live in a lawless society. Even those who call themselves Christian but who do not our Christ. Ty:))

  3. As a woman, I’ve always felt the slut shaming was a horrible double standard. A “man whore” is celebrated while a woman who has as many sexual partners as she wants is called a “slut”. It goes back to equality. Same standards for same actions. Either having multiple partners is wrong and horrible for men & women or it no one else’s business and STFU!!

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      So, how does that translate to the history of America? Does it solely focus on the bad history?

      If all we hear is how someone is a slut, what do the majority of people begin to talk about?

      1. I think it ties into history by men being the “head of household” while the “little woman” stayed home. It led to men being seen as more valuable, more important than women. Women weren’t allowed the vote until the fought for it. Women were supposed to do what their fathers, then husbands said. If a woman decided to live her own life it was wrong. I think that’s where the whole slut thing came from. These are my thoughts, I haven’t researched it.

        What to talk about? How about living together instead of against each other. How about the things we have in common instead of the differences. Or better yet, how those differences are all that weird, but actually kinda cool. How about something that requires an original thought instead of regurgitated talking-head BS?

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          Exactly, I wasn’t living then. I had no say in the then. Take me for who I am, wholly or not at all. Just don’t keep me around as a door mat, a face to hate, for things I had never done.

          1. Yep. I was talking to my SJW daughter and she shook her head and said “Did you just ‘not all men’ me Mom?” I said “uh, yeah! NOT all men. NOT all anything” Rapist rape. Abusers abuse. Let’s hold individuals responsible for their actions. I’m pretty left in my politics. I support a lot of marginalized people. I’m an ally.
            I’m also tired of feeling like I have to apologize because I was born white.

  4. I don’t think I have fully understood the issue at hand Coffee? Is it referring to someone with more relaxed moral standards and shaming them buy calling them names and using insulting terms?

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Yes, that and more…

      I’m mean it’s everything. White privilege, toxic masculinity, the wage gap, climate change deniers, etc.

      Is there no more nuance? Are we just faceless people, identified solely by our color and sex?

      1. Is this regarding to what people publish about others?

        I have not had to deal with people being treated as faceless here. Everyone matters. Everyone has a story.

        Some generalisations serve a purpose…for example targeting health campaigns etc, some generalisations are just kind of lazy. aren’t they?

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          No, it’s not a response. Just something I’ve had a hard time putting into words, and then it finally came to me today.

  5. Goodness. So many questions in your opening salvo.

    Is a woman celebrated for having multiple partners? Not that I have heard or read. Historically speaking, women have been shamed & targeted for “getting around” with the worst of the shaming coming from other women…not men. Men like loose women or prostitution wouldn’t thrive. Do they want their wives or girlfriends or daughters to collect lovers? Most would not.

    Is discussing slavery or racism the same as slut shaming? No. Slavery was/is a terrible practice. Racism is ugly behavior. Being a ‘slut’? That only harms if disease is spread or jealousy produces violence.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Perhaps Victoria, but why punish those who had nothing to do with slavery? Why constantly bring it up, unless like slut shaming, instead of condemning the act, whether man or woman, people who had nothing to do with it are condemned.

      1. THAT is a product of our society & our controllers. That is a purposeful act bestowed upon us by TPTB. They use the MSM as a mouthpiece & stir up trouble.

        People, in general terms, have lost the ability to think for themselves. They don’t actively question the narrative. The ones that do are shouted down by the groups who (1) believe everything the MSM tells them & (2) benefit from the chaos.

        I’ve said this before…and I will say it, again…stop watching CNN.

  6. Anonymous

    I think you’re really stretching to do next these things here, man. I think it’s wrong to shame anyone for having multiple intimate partners. I also think k that for hundreds of years if not more, women have born the brunt of “slut shaming”. Rather than figure out who shames sluts more, men or women, maybe we can all agree that it’s really none of our business who or how many partners other people choose to have.
    As to tying to tie slut shaming to slavery and racism, this seems like bullshit. Because we shouldn’t slutshame, we also shouldn’t say that slavery was bad? Does not compute. I think the point with being anti slutshaming, is that slut shaming is done out of a sense of moral superiority over something that is really none of your business. Discussing slavery and ensuring that everyone understands why it should never happen again is good. Just as discussing why the Nazi’s were wrong in WW2 is not a bad thing either.
    To sum it up, one is assuming moral superiority, the other SHOULD be done not out of a sense of superiority but instead the idea that we are morally obligated to prevent slavery and the conditions to allow them to exist to never happen again.
    My question to you is why do you feel shame when people talk about racism? Starting to rethink what you meant when you said Nazi’s could be good people. -Steve

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Yeah, maybe.

      But why continue to bring up slavery when hundreds of thousands of men and boys founght and died to end slavery then? I can understand that it is super popular these days to continually bring up slavery, as if any of us had anything to do with it.

      And that’s what I mean, the new movement to stop slut shaming proves that all the gibberish over slavery today is simply meant to shame us into conformity for something we’ve never done.

    2. bottomlesscoffee007

      Just as I have never raped or beaten a woman, but I’m still spoken to about this stuff. Why bring it up if not as an attempt to shame me into conformity. That’s how I linked the two together.

      Not laterally, but philosophically.

    3. bottomlesscoffee007

      The Nazi comment, ok. Is there no more nuance left or is nuance reserved for only certain groups of people?

      If someone is forced to serve in their nations military, then they have no say in them serving in hitlers army.

  7. Anonymous

    Your right, there is nuance left where we can recognize it. A little research shows us that not all German soldiers in WW2 were Nazi’s, however, none of them are documented as standing up and speaking up against the systematic atrocities that his or her fellow Germans were committing. we can argue nuance there all day long.
    Nazi’s during this period, however, are largely documented as favoring Hitler’s final solution, which was essentially genocide or subjugation of all people’s of none European descent. So no, a Nazi pretty much is at their core, a bad person. Can they change and become good? Absolutely. Can a Nazi do nice things for certain people? Sure, a Nazi could hold a door open for you, or help you pick up a bunch of books you dropped. They are, however, at their core, of a heinous and evil mindset, and therefore bad peop!e. -Steve

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      What about Oskar Schindler? A member of the Nazi party that saved over 1,200 Jews? Nuance there?

      Maybe President FDR, social security, New Deal, Japanese internment camps, is that nuance?

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