Are Gay Men Part of the Patriarchy & A Trans President.

Are gay men considered part of the patriarchy?

If a transgender woman was elected as president of the U.S., would that satisfy those who want a woman U.S. president?

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53 thoughts on “Are Gay Men Part of the Patriarchy & A Trans President.

  1. hawk2017

    Wow, what a question. No, because satan loves chaos. A human is never satisfied unless he or she is the residence of the Holy Spirit. And even we who are let our eyes wander sometimes. More is never enough for the unsaved.:)

  2. Well it depends on the gay man….If he is a effeminate gay, usually a bottom then no he isn’t considered a part of the patriarchy. Otherwise, if he’s a top, or a masculine (or home thug) gay then he might be a part of the patriarchy.

    As to the transgender bit – I’m not sure.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Interesting Rakkelle, so it’s how others interpret the man? Is the patriarchy reserved only for straight men, usually? I wonder how the gays avoided this sleight?

      Yeah, the transgender woman President. Would those people who want a woman President feel “cheated”? Or would everyone be too scared to say what they actually felt/thought?

      1. No, no, no…It’s not the interpretation of the man. There is no interpretation. It’s who he is….You’re either an effeminate gay or not.

        Don’t you have any gay friends? Go ask them. 😏

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          I don’t know any man, gay or straight that claims to be part of any supposed patriarchy. I really don’t even think it’s a real thing.

          How come gay men, being men, would somehow magically not be part of the patriarchy?

          1. You didn’t answer my question.

            I didn’t say that gay men were not a part of the patriarchy. Did you even read what I wrote in my initial response to your queries?

                1. bottomlesscoffee007

                  Gay friends. No, I have know gay men. I don’t understand what my myriad of friends or family has to do with any of this.

                  I don’t have gay friends, or black friends or Muslim friends or disabled friends or any other friends part of a “marginalized” sect.

                  All I have are friends Rakkelle, plain and simple. I don’t view my friends as Pokémon characters, where I have to “catch em all”.

                  1. Hello??? Why the ‘tude? Did my question rub you the wrong way? The reason I asked if you had any gay friends was if you’re legitimately interested in an answer to your question about the existence (or non-existence) of the patriarchy in the gay community then you could direct your question to one of them. Unless of course you weren’t really looking for an answer and just wanted to play devil’s advocate.

                    Pokemon characters? Seriously, 007…Don’t go there! You only have friends, you don’t see color, race or ethnicity, right? Sounds like I might have stepped on your toes with my question. My question wasn’t meant to offend. Trust! No need to sound off….And just so you know you have at least one black friend…Me!

                    Goodnight 007!

                    1. bottomlesscoffee007

                      Haha Haha, duly noted Racquel. No attitude. I just don’t understand what my relationships have to do with whether or not gay men are considered part of the patriarchy and if they are, are they expected to step aside so women can break the chains of bondage that only patriarchy brings about, supposedly.

                      I saw a piece on Kamala Harris today, and not her, but the commentators were talking about how the majority of “men” don’t want a woman President.

                      Then I saw a piece on those two male cheerleaders for the L.A. Rams. Clearly they are gay, and I started to wonder if all this talk of a “patriarchy” were actually true or if it another tool used to separate and divide us into different groups.

                      The oppressors and the oppressed.
                      Patriarchy refers to men and masculinity, I have never heard mention of gay men being included or excluded in this talk of a patriarchy. So, I asked the question, are they automatically excluded since they are typically stereotyped as being on the left?

                      I have different friends Racquel. But I don’t pick my friends based on some type of “one from each synthetically designed group”. We are either friends or we are not.

                      I hate the whole color/preference/religion/disabled/trans/whatever spectrum, if I’m being honest. I either like you or I don’t, we either click or we don’t. Plain and simple.

                      You better believe, nothing is off limits between my friends and I. Blood in, blood out, borne in combat and baptized in battle. So, I don’t see the color, I see the person and I see the eyes, therefore, I feel the soul of my brothers.

                      I still don’t know if this answers your question….

                      I am legitimately interested in your answer.

                    2. 👏👏👏👏👏 Standing O for that one.

                      I thought I answered you already though, if we’re still talking about the patriarchy bit within the gay community, that is. I would assume it exists there too but again, that would be best answered by a member of that community.

                      Never thought you were the type of guy to “pick” friends based on anything…I mean do people even really “pick” their friends…I, for one, don’t see someone and decide that s/he should be my friend. I never assumed people pick friends. You either “gel” with a person and they become your friend or you can’t see eye to eye so you know that “friendship’ is going to be elusive. I would never assume that you ‘picked’ friends.

                      You still haven’t said whether any of your friends are gay but at this point in our conversation that’s neither here nor there. Doesn’t matter really. Since you seem to sincerely want an answer to your question then I believe you should direct the question to the gay community (or a gay friend) for some real discussion in order to see if you can get some answers. Otherwise, any answers that I may be able to provide would simply be assumptions based on my opinions that might very well be inaccurate.

                    3. bottomlesscoffee007

                      But isn’t that the thing about these labels that are placed on passers by? Doesn’t the observer decide who is and who is not part of the patriarchy?

                      It’s seems as if the term itself is a sleight. So, why would anyone think that they are this “generalization”. It’s like asking people if they stink or if they are a good person or not.

                      So, I don’t see how asking a certain community or even individuals to identify themselves would even work.

                      I think it would be like asking all of the “racists” at work to raise their hands, just so everyone in the office knows to the legitimate racists are.

                    4. You wouldn’t be asking them to identify themselves specifically. You would be having a discussion on what generally goes on in their community.

                    5. bottomlesscoffee007

                      So again, an “outsider” goes in to assess the status of a place and check the balance meters to look for an imbalance?

                      That sounds an awful like an observer, which in turn would be an interpretation.

                      Maybe, they like their lives and who am I to ask them to justify their life or their choices to me?

                      That’s what I’m driving at Racquel. If I am guilty of trespassing against another, who am I to say who is and who is not living right? Is there any person on this entire planet who has never hurt another, either physically or emotionally? If we all are guilty in some form or fashion, then blaming an entire population seems rather pathetic and lazy.

                      You see what I mean? This whole nonsense about a made up fantasy of toil and bondage, just to create an entire group of oppressors and the oppressed.

                      It’s either tangible or it is not. The idea of a patriarchy, removes actual offenders and blames the entire population of boys and men.

  3. Hmmm… I think that those who want a woman to be in such a position of power just because she’s a woman and nothing else, are often pro minorities in general. So in this case, yes, I think most would be satisfied.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Really? That’s interesting. So, as long as it is a “minority” they would be satisfied?

      Hmmm, I really don’t know what to say.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              Comedy and tragedy often go hand in hand. Hilarious from the aspect of, I cannot believe they actually fell for it!

  4. 🤔 Hmm. I usually do not share my perspective on politically-related posts because it has the potential of starting an online war.

    I don’t think that gay men are really considered part of the patriarchy (Maybe, secretly part of the matriarchy).

    And, I highly doubt that a transgendered individual would satisfy those people who wanted a woman to be the President of the United States of America mainly because they would want a ‘real’ woman.

    For the record, I have nothing against gay people and if the citizens of the United States of America chose to vote for a transgendered person to be their President, the transgendered person has every right to be President.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Hahahahaha, are you being serious KE? So, basically, it’s impossible for a cock sucker to be part of the patriarchy? Only those who give cock then? I had no idea the gays were so generalized and monolithic.

      1. I’m pretty sure I said in the end that homosexual males can hold the same ideas. This is my point: the patriarchy is more about power and oppression of women. Homosexual males can oppress women; however, they too, can be oppressed depending on where and how they show up in society.

            1. bottomlesscoffee007

              Ok, can you explain exactly what it is and how it happens? Can you make it tangible?

              If it is not tangible or measurable, then, does it really exist?

              1. Hiring practices. If I’m qualified for a job, but you will only hire men for said job, then you are oppressing (keeping me in subservience, by the unjust exercise of authority) my right to work at a job. Another example, in India it is legal to rape one’s wife. This is oppressive. The wife has no rights within her own marriage and it is due to men being in power and making rules as such. There are countless examples, but alas, his is just a blog comment 😉

                    1. bottomlesscoffee007

                      Does rape happen to every single woman? Is every man a rapist?

                      Do women not hire other women, or is it just men?

                      That’s the problem, generalized terms and sweeping allegations.

                    2. Yeah it’s a system, not a generalization. And I think, the same way we shouldn’t generalize is the same way we shouldn’t dismiss that we are a part of a patriarchal system.

                    3. bottomlesscoffee007

                      What exactly is that system KE? Who exactly and what exactly, not just generalizations, but actual and factual allegations with names and dates and locations?

                    4. I just told you men rape their wives in India…legally. That is because of a patriarchal system. You want me to name a person? Perhaps, I don’t understand what you want. And that’s okay lol I’m gonna have to bow out of this convo now.

                    5. bottomlesscoffee007

                      Ok KE, thanks for participating. I was just wondering how in America we live in a patriarchal society?

                    6. bottomlesscoffee007

                      That’s horrible KE. Did you report it? Where there charges filed?

                      I could see how anyone who has an experience, would assume that others have experienced the same.

                    7. Good Morning lol I said in my initial response that they could do the same things; however, my point is they could also be oppressed by the same system of patriarchy depending on how they show up in the world. Hope you have a great day! I’m off to do author things 🙏🏾

                    8. bottomlesscoffee007

                      Alright KE. I just don’t understand how you separate individuals based on their sexual preference. Do women practice corrupt hiring processes as well, or are women incapable of that also?

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