Which is More Dangerous?

With all the hubbub today concerning outrage and censorship, what do you the reader find most dangerous and why?

1. Guns

2. Misinformation

3. Surveillance

If there is something else you find more dangerous please feel free to divulge and please expound on your answers.

I look forward to reading your answers and participating in an open discussion.

52 thoughts on “Which is More Dangerous?

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      FOR ME, SURVEILLANCE IS THE MOST DANGEROUS. BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSED BY PRIVATE COMPANIES, THE STATE AND BOTH OF THESE ENTITIES IN TANDEM AS WELL. MISINFORMATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE AND GUNS ARE QUITE INCONSEQUENTIAL IN MY OPINION. HORSEPOWER KILLS MORE THAN GUNPOWDER EVERYDAY AND EVERY YEAR IN THE U.S.. MASS SURVEILLANCE IN MY OPINION HAS GREATER AND MORE PROFOUND NEGATIVE AND INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS OUTCOMES FOR CITIZENS TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE.

      (I DON’T KNOW WHY MY RESPONSE DEFAULTED TO ALL CAPS)

      1. I was just about to ask if you were just that mad/ passionate that you all caps’ed it.

        I hear you in regards to the surveillance, BUT the misinformation is more important to me because I see what it does on a daily basis. To people I know.

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          That makes sense Goldie. We don’t have to agree, since we all have different dilemmas and different scenarios we encounter.

          The more we disagree on these types of issues, the better we make out. The more we communicate and “watch our sector” the more is covered. Instead of everyone looking at the same thing, together we watch everything.

  1. I was about to agree with Goldie re misinformation but the points you made stopped me in my tracks. I automatically thought Surveillance – FBI etc – Doesn’t affect me.. I didn’t think of the points you raised for one minute and honestly, that left me cold. I’ll be honest, I completely dismissed that option when reading them and yet your points have shown me exactly why that’s so insidious.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      I can understand Goldie and you. My problem with surveillance is, it is not something we have any control over, yet we are under it all the time. The reasons for surveillance are totally nefarious in my opinion. And totally unregulated and overpowered.

      1. The lack of control is truly bothersome indeed.
        We can try and fight misinformation by talking to those that aren’t aware (that does not mean that they will see the right things).

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          Maybe. The more we collaborate, the better our odds, possibly. In any regard, it’s worth a shot, what do we have to lose?

          “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. As is everything else in life, until death.

        2. bottomlesscoffee007

          The more we talk to them, the more they talk to us. Never underestimate the probability of them pointing out things we have missed as well.

  2. I read the post and immediately thought “misinformation”. Guns Don’t seem Dangerous to me at first glance, it’s what you do with them that is harmful, the hand holding the gun is more dangerous.

    Surveillance doesn’t seem that Dangerous to me because we almost all agree upon that, and especially nowadays with terrorism, I think there have been reasons for increased surveillance (I Don’t know what exactly you refer to). And if you have Nothing to hide, why care?

    About misinformation, that to me is the most Dangerous because it’s very difficult to teach people how to check what they see/read. And in today’s world where every piece of news tends to have the same value and can be shared in seconds with the entire world, not everybody is equiped to verify the authenticity of an information and the consequences of that can be very damaging. In another one of your articles you talked about the confirmation bias, in my response to that I could have Added that misinformation is a fuel for conspiracy theories. Those who aim at looking for information which will confirm their beliefs are not going to try and search for other sources or even verify their sources as long as they are confirmed and reassured in their thoughts. I don’ know if it’s clear.
    Thank you for the thought provoking topics, they engage in the discussion eventhough ther are often polemical 🙂

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      You believe what you believe, whether it was information or influence or life experiences that led you to believe what you believe. The same is true of religion and science and the people who refute one over the other.

      We all have our fears and our prejudices for our own reasons. We must allow others their own choices.

  3. Cliff

    Most dangerous….surveillance. It is the easiest one of the three to allow the government to continue overreach on the basis of fear. ‘The more we surveil, the safer you are.’ While it can be argued that we are far safer now because of surveillance techniques executed by various entities, my response is ‘at what cost.’ Surveillance can unquestionably assist in the ability of police departments to identify and arrest perpetrators much faster than in the past, it can just as easily be used to follow and build a case against anyone. We are protected against unreasonable search and seizure, and I would argue that surveillance, when not used correctly is unreasonable search. When used correctly, as in upon the identification of a crime, and the subsequent viewing of surveillance video to identify the correct perpetrator, I see it as a useful tool. I am not up to speed on how police departments are utilizing their surveillance video from a live perspective, but I assume that there is an algorithm that has been developed that allows authorities to follow citizens unlawfully.

    With regards to misinformation, I absolutely agree that it has become a cancer on our society. Couple misinformation with our ever dying need to be the ‘first’ to do something, or be able to use hindsight to say ‘I told you so,’ and you have a recipe for disaster. The biggest problem I see with misinformation, is that it is getting ever more difficult to decipher fact from fiction. It is a close number 2, but misinformation is protected under the first amendment, regardless of how much we, the people, detest it.

    Guns…..hahahahaha, sorry, I didn’t take that one seriously, bro!

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Cliff, quite thorough and insightful. We agree on surveillance. The fog comes in at when is it too much. I do not think that there is enough oversight at the institutions both public and private that do the surveillance. At the same time, the buffoons that are entrusted to maintain the trust, are beholden to their own “creditors”, never the constituents. I can understand your stance, as you can mine.

      Misinformation, very interesting choice of words to describe your answer. Do you address this in your conversations? If so, how do you go about doing it? I can see this causing much friction, and possibly very hard to address at the same time. We have our friends and family, we cannot always agree. Do you simply ignore or do you confront? Is the relationship worth more than the information or vice versa? What is the compounding problem with misinformation in your opinion? I ask because I think misinformation has always been there in the form of propaganda, and the term misinformation is used as propaganda today.

      Guns, to some they are evil and must be destroyed. Maybe it’s misinformation (propaganda), possibly it’s trauma they experienced in their life. But I am with you on this as well.

      1. Cliff

        I try my best to confront misinformation. If one is unable to see that they are wrong, I will usually just drop it, until I can find more evidence to disprove their claims. If they aren’t willing to listen, I won’t waste my breath. Its the same when it comes to politics. I am not going to change a hard-left or hard-right person. They are set in their ways. I will hang out happily in the middle, refusing to let my most important issue guide my vote.

        What do I think is the compounding issue? There are a few of them…one is the unrelenting thrust of misinformation on the internet. If you get your news from memes, don’t be offended if I choose to stop talking to you. The second, and these are not necessarily in any order, is that we all have a hidden conspiracy theorist in us. If a meme, or bullshit story pops up, that sounds so crazy it just may have happened; AND it falls in line with our party line, it will be forwarded. Regardless of how outlandish it is. People do this all the time, and when they get called out on it, they just kinda shrug their shoulders and say ‘I know its not true, but its funny.’ It is not funny, because, and this leads me to my third compounding factor, people are fucking lazy! They would much rather push a meme from one of their friends that thinks like them, than to put the facts out there. It is ironic that we have all of the information we need at our fingertips, yet we rarely use it to push truth. Some memes are funny, I get it, what I don’t get are the ones that are purposely wrong, yet somehow continue to be forwarded.

        Thanks for this, BC! This was a nice distraction from the day!

        1. bottomlesscoffee007

          I hear ya loud and clear. It’s heartwarming to know that you do not simply cut ties with those whom you may disagree with or vice versa. It sounds like the relationship means more than the politics or misinformation at hand. More people should take your advice. I think it lends itself to more meaningful relationships and stronger bonds.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      They can be Rue, it only depends on what’s important to you. I don’t think there is the perfect answer.

  4. Despite left-wing propaganda, guns aren’t “dangerous” in and of themselves. They’re only dangerous if they get in the wrong hands – and if you’re a burglar staring one down. More civilians having more guns ironically negates the danger from criminal guns. So, guns aren’t remotely most dangerous.
    That would instead be a tossup between the other two – although I would lean slightly towards misinformation.

    1. bottomlesscoffee007

      Religion is the perfect example of misinformation. That is, how it has been used and continues to be used.

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